That's just the way it is when there's a competition between two teams. I don't really understand what the big deal is. I personally found myself rooting for the Phillies because that's what most of my friends an family members were doing. I never actually cared who won. I just like seeing loved ones happy. After two or however many losses they have now, I've realized that we've lost our ability to graciously accept defeat. Losing is part of competition.
It troubles me that people are upset about a recent loss. Why does the outcome of a game in which we have no stake, which is played be people we've never met, and which is viewed from many miles away have any effect on our emotions? It kind of disgusts me. People get sad because "their" team lost? I don't get it. Can anyone explain to me why we care so much? Am I the one in the wrong? Is there something wrong with being happy regardless of who wins?
When I was younger we would sometimes play baseball. On one team would be some of my best friends... the other team was no different. We never kept score. There was no need to. It was about having fun.
That's why I hate professional sports. They matter way too much to way too many people. I no longer care who wins the world series. I'd just like for it to end...
And if "your" team loses, please don't act a fool. Those players don't even know you exist.
If anyone can enlighten me, feel free... I just don't understand...
And really I think Laura is the only person who still follows this... so go ahead Laura, tell me what you think. Do you even pay attention to sports?
...I try not to...
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Never in my life have I sat down to intentionally watch any kind of game and enjoyed it (until now). I think there was one time when we might have been at Coffarelli's place for the superbowl, but I didn't even watch most of it. I've never been a fan of sports. Never. And then a few months ago, Amy and Janna's brother Chris had tickets to a baseball game from his work. We had really nice seats and popcorn and soda's to accompany us while they all tried to explain to me what was going on. I enjoyed rooting for a team, and the team we were rooting for won. I also really enjoyed the people who ran out to the field when it started to rain and covered it. It looked like fun and I almost enjoyed that more. Anyway, I enjoyed going to the game. And then this past Thursday night I came back from class and was going to get straight to work on hw, but I sat on our couch and watched the game that was already on. At the time Janna and Amy didn't have cable and so I updated them, and the Yankees won, and it was exciting. Surprisingly I enjoyed it. Then on Saturday night, I was at the Westgates and they decided they would pay to watch the game online because it's their favorite team in the world series. So I watched it, and again, surprisingly enjoyed it. And I was happy when they won. So, besides me finding a new appreciation for baseball, I also compare sports to politics, only because people almost treat them the same. They comment awful and horrible things to opposing fans, and it's like a competition between the fans more than it is in the game. I think it's quite ridiculous to base who you are and if you're evil, and how you're corrupting someone if you're rooting for the opposing team. It's the same in politics. That's why I hate both of them (however, I have found a new love for baseball). So I agree with you. They're all sucky fans because they need to learn that losing is a part in sports that will always be there. Does that help?
I feel the same way, bud. It's so silly. I do enjoy watching for the pure entertainment of it, but it really has become a venue for idiocy. People who get upset actually get violent. I've heard that Phillies fans burn things and trash the city when they lose. It makes no sense. It IS just a game... and I'm fairly positive that it, and any other sport, was created for the purpose of enjoyment and exercise.
Goodness, this world is just messed up in the priorities department.
Laura, I don't have time to elaborate on everything, but one thing I didn't hear from you was how you'd feel if "your" team didn't win, and why. Would it bother you?
I'll say more when I get to read these more thoroughly.
Greggy, you're officially my hero.
Honestly, I think it's a person's necessity to feel like they're a part of something greater than themselves. It's "fun" to get caught up in something huge and to think that you really are a part of it, that you matter to its cause.
It's silly, but I, too, am guilty. I love getting caught up in the adrenaline of picking a team [not necessarily baseball] and just rooting for them. I like having something to argue about. Haha Who doesn't?
Humans don't make much sense. It's just the way we are. :P Not a perfect explanation, but a tiny one. In the end, it doesn't matter who wins, but people like to think it does. And there's really nothing WRONG with that.
It's just plain silly is all.
I miss you!
Well Greg, from another man's perspective(Not bashing the ladies, y'all are just different), and being somewhat inclined to violence and competition myself, I offer a different perspective.
Call it a biological imperative, or a evolutionary function, or what-have-you, but I believe that men have a basic fighting instinct. Now, I don't necessarily mean physically, but they generally have a very strong drive to accomplish what the feel is right/need to do, whatever way that they see fit. I think this may stem from a God given desire to protect those under our charge.
I think that gradually over the years, this has twisted into this modern desire for competition; i.e.- professional sports. Now, I'm not that big into sports. I'll watch them, but generally only if someone else is, or if it just happens to be on at the restaurant or bar of whatever. But, when I do watch them, I can feel that competitive nature get all riled up in me and usually gets me to cheer either for one team or the either, usually quite arbitrarily seeing as how I know Jack-squat about most sports.
Now, you know how much I LOVE to argue. Ha ha. Even over the most stupid things, and even if I know I'm wrong. Arguing for the sake of arguing. I think that this also stems from that same issue of having that fighting nature. Hell, that's even part of the reason I joined the Military. I have an extremely strong desire in me to fight, defend, contest anything that stands in the way of what I think is right.
Now obviously, this can very easily get twisted into stupid things and stupid situations. I often find myself thinking; "Why the hell am I arguing about this?" when I'm just mindlessly contradicting something someone said, when no one really cares. This is probably something akin to why men get so into sports.
It's just a twisted function of them wanting to protect their home turf/family/team. Who know? I hope this made at least a little sense. It's late. Goodnight Greg
As always I half agree on both sides... I do like to root for a team.. It is fun to see competition, but more for the skill.. not only to see a team win or lose.. I agree with hating when people say "my" team.. bc it's ridiculous.
I just like celebrating when a team I like wins, but if they lose I am cool about feeling happy for them too... Unless it's a team where all the fans are jerks... then I'm a litttle bit dissappointed...anyway...
I also agree with the fact that when we were younger we played and didnt care about anything but the fun of it. And either way, if the players can be decent sports about losing, why can't their fans?
Good thoughts Greggy... miss ya man
Tim makes a good point...for guys at least. But in response to your question, this was the first time I rooted for a team, and they won. I'm sure it wouldn't be the best feeling in the world if the team that I was rooting for lost, but like you said, it's part of the process. If you do your best, you should be content with that. But I wouldn't act like fanatic or mean or anything like that.
...Does that answer your question?
I understand the desire to root for a team--why one might do it, and why it may matter to them. What I'm looking for is justification for all the negative feelings that follow when one's team loses (for those who experience such feelings. I understand not all do).
Is there any? Is it okay to be mad because of this? By whose standards? for how long?
Where is the line? is there one?
I don't know Greg. I tried asking someone that and he was like, that's the beauty of sports. I don't understand either. Tell me if you ever do.
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